LIVE from Northwest Missouri State University (Maryville, MO) - If God, Why Evil?
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@CrossExamined Says:
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@ricardozk Says:
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@Jerharris90 Says:
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@gamefan8552 Says:
I like Frank arguments and events, however he does have a blind spot for Catholicism and it does make a huge difference in many things, including salvation. All of it is important, given we are not going to get saved by going to the "wrong" Church, but by knowing the truth as Jesus taught it. 1.- the misunderstanding of “works” salvation, the Catholic doctrine of salvation being effected by grace alone see Ephesians 2:8-10, Titus 3:5-7. There is no contradiction in our living the Christian life of faith, hope, and charity after being given the “Spirit of sonship” (Rom. 5:15) and the grace of regeneration. Actually, these are the supernatural effects of being made a child in God’s family; we mature and we produce these fruits. By the grace of God, we are saved through our faith; this faith entails by its very nature, good works, always enabled by prior grace, without which this faith is dead. 2.- Paul, John, Matthew, and James show that the Bible does not teach salvation by faith alone (Rom. 2:6-13, 1 Cor. 13:2, 13, John 15:9-13, Matt. 19:16-17, Jas. 2:17-26). It teaches faith must “work in love” (Gal. 5:6) if it is a real, active, and living faith. Christ said, “If you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments” (Matt. 19:16-17). Our faith in Christ and our growing in holiness by keeping the commandments go hand in hand (Rom. 1:5, 16:26) 3.- The real difference between Catholics and Evangelicals lies in the understanding of what grace is and how God applies grace of the redemption to souls. Does God merely declare us righteous, or does he make us righteous? Does God impute Christ’s righteousness to us in a legal sense, or does he infuse his own righteousness into our souls? 1 John 3:1-7 shows we are not merely declared to be God’s children when we’re justified – we actually become his children. Also Romans 5:19, which is clear in stating that in Christ, the second Adam, we are made righteous. (This verse is a good paraphrase of the Council of Trent’s declaration on justification btw). How would evangelics view square with 2 Peter 1:4, which states that we “become partakers of the divine nature.” 4.-The early Christians treated the Bible—including the deuterocanonicals—as Scripture, and it was at the time of the Protestant Reformation that a movement began denying their canonicity. Prior to this point, only some individuals did so, but the majority recognized the deuterocanonicals’ place in Scripture. Thus Protestant church historian J.N.D. Kelly writes that, although some early Christian writers had different views regarding the status of these books, “For the great majority, however, the deuterocanonical writings ranked as Scripture in the fullest sense” (Early Christian Doctrines, 5th ed., 55). It would therefore have been Protestants who removed these books from Scripture, violating the prohibition on taking away from God’s word. Wished Frank did a Q&A with Catholic apologist, I think it would help to avoid confusion.
@GordonPasha1885 Says:
The One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church was founded by Lord Jesus Himself c.33 and is the true Church, unlike Protestant Churches founded by mere men. Dr. Turek is very wrong and either mistaken or lying. Why? There is a Gospel reading at EVERY Mass, read by the priest, followed by a homily on the GOSPEL. I heard so many Gospel readings and homilies over the last 50 years and im not lying! Repent ➕
@jdizle1178 Says:
The Bible doesn’t teach that hell is separation from God. Maybe separation from His love. Hell is biblically the wrath of God. “For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭1‬:‭18‬-‭19‬ ‭ “Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.” John 3:36
@rocketscientisttoo Says:
I will greatly increase your 'pain' (Hebrew is-sa-bon) meaning anxious toil, hardship; hard, difficult or painful work that is often manual labor (no pun intended). On John 11, Jesus was obeying the first commandment, contrary to what the Jews said about Him in this passage "See how He loved him!". Which begs the question, Were the Jews ever right about Jesus, ever? The Jews also had a religious tradition that the soul did not leave the body until after the 3rd day.
@justin10292000 Says:
atheism is silly, toddler-tantrumish nonsense.
@patrickedgington5827 Says:
Two points that may seem petty, a matter of semantics; all the same the subject is God and salvation, so even small differences matter? One has to do with God being just, and the cross. Yashua is not dying as an innocent substitute; He is dying as a king in place of His people. All they have done, is rightly His responsibility. If you are His, the penalty of all you have done is His, and He takes it on. Just as a father pays out of his pocket for the damages his child may have caused playing baseball with rocks? He created us, gave us the freedom to fail, but pays for that. The second point was faith. You said its about trust, and I agree, but you said trust with good reasons. I would say trust with personal reasons; after all He is a person. Someone may read scripture, and from that come away with a concept of who He is. From that concept conclude He is all good, and so the only way. Develop a strong committed belief, in a god that while real, is to them still conceptual? Muslims do and at times are so committed, they blow themselves up? But that’s not faith. Faith is trust but, in a person, not a reason. Scripture is clear as to just how faith comes, and it comes by an encounter with God. Of all the things those teaching, professing, spreading, defining, Christianity get wrong; this is the single most important. For by grace are we saved THROUGH FAITH. We are told to bring the good news to the world, to spread the gospel to the ends of it. That good news is the by the cross we are all reconciled, and able, if we will, to call on God; to come to the throne? If we do, and doing so encounter Him, we receive the gift of faith, and by that salvation, or the opportunity for salvation. You do speak of personal encounter when you say there are three ways to learn. But in reality, there is no understanding for the natural man as the things of God are spiritual. Yes after we have encountered Him and received the Spirit we can learn from other Christians and from scripture, but I would say, personal revelation is more than a way of growing or learning; it’s the first step we must take to be Christian at all. I would also say most believers don’t. They do what they can to learn, to follow the law, but they don’t get that what it is to be Christian is to be in Him. The only way to be on the Ark with Noah was to clime in through the door. Riding on top wasn’t a way to get through the flood.
@Disciple793 Says:
What Frank didn't mention about the RCC is that the church teaches the moment a person is justified before God is through water baptism. This may be the reason why many lay Catholics have never heard of the gospel.
@cvanhaelst4189 Says:
Suffering is a result of man's disobedience. Since those who go to heaven have submitted their will to God's will, there will be no disobedience in heaven therefore there will be no suffering in heaven.
@yadmicasaestucasa9234 Says:
I am deeply involved with God but sometimes I wonder why God let evil exist when Satan rebel against him. In that moment evil came about ..... I understand he gave the angels free will ...but why envy came to Satan when in heaven
@lojobambam2 Says:
The people who make the "why would God kill a baby" argument are the same people getting abortions or encouraging women to get them so there's a bit of irony there
@jamesw5353 Says:
Frank was being kind...he didn't mention the fact Catholics pray to Mary and Saints. He didn't mention that Catholics believe the Pope is infallible. They are more about rituals than Biblical teachings. Doesn't mean some aren't saved but they do adhere to works and rituals.
@reaper5454 Says:
I believe that God predestins our capacity for free will. At any point God could say "ok no more free will" and poof it would go away. Instead God wants us to actually have the ability to love and you can only love if you have free will to choose not to love
@kodekmana5866 Says:
1:38:27 That answer about pre-destination is exactly what the Muslims say. So is there free will in Islam as well?
@andrewschafer8986 Says:
Frank asked the right questions. Unfortunately he doesn’t have the answers.
@filmscorelife4225 Says:
Jesus' scars are sad in light of our sin. In Heaven there is no more sin. The price has been paid. At that point the scars are celebrated not mourned.
@Steve-in-the-uk Says:
The problem that all theists have is that there is zero evidence for a god existing. All that theists can present are claims.
@jeffphelps1355 Says:
In a world of subjective morality one mans evil is another man's good. It's nonsense
@binhanh296 Says:
If God, why evil?! Did God, in the entire Bible, chose to do nothing everytime He saw evil? The first time evil thought appeared was in Cain, but because Cain was only 1 person, God chose mercy. The second time evil appear, God cleansed the world with the flood. The time evil appeared in Abraham's city, Abraham bargained with God, God's patience was shown when He told Abraham if he can find 1 person that was righteous in the city, He wouldn't destroy the city, and Abraham couldn't. God's power is great, too great that if He decided to take action, you know the consequences. Jesus taught about this in the parable of weed and grain. If the master chose to take out the weed, he would take out the grain, too, so he decided to let the weed and the grain grow together, at the time of harvest, he would separate them, each to it's kind, the grains go into the barn, the weed would be gathered and burn up. That's the fate of evil.
@davekpghpa Says:
Great talk and Q&A. One point that was made that I'm not sure about is the idea of varying degrees of punishment in hell. I don't recall any scripture that supports that idea.
@fidenful Says:
The young man with the gay sister, here is one example of Religion' s poison; sexual orientations are not a choice, one is born with that, some may not be the norm, but nothing is wrong with it and nothing will change it, the role of a loving brother ( one that not suscribes to primitive ideology) is to be supportive and let her be happy in the relationship her nature has chosen for her. Any other actitud will be inmensly cruel and hurtful to her. Nothing will make her happier than your acceptance and support. Be a man.
@fidenful Says:
Wasn't the Preacher in accord with the description of Dawkins of the God of the Bible? That sounds more like a cruel and vindictive God who would not care whether people suffer or not. The only reasonable answer to the problem of suffering is Dawkins's, He is not there.
@cnault3244 Says:
If you could prevent a murder, would it be immoral to not prevent it?
@lisasophia775 Says:
Why show the infinity symbol (occult in nature) in the ripple effect? It has no business bring dropped in this christian presentation. I'm surprised, I like the ministry of cross examined.. q&A/ when asked about free will. the minimum or maximum going to 2 different destinations God knows and states in his word. Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
@markpettit2990 Says:
Not true...God gave us free will we chose to use that will to rebel against Him...our curse is sin...we brought that curse upon ourselves...we are the cause of evil not God ..but as a just and righteous God instead of destroying us He gave us a way out of this evil..through His son Jesus...He has a greater purpose ...all the suffering we could ever suffer is a drop in the bucket of eternity....I will gladly suffer for a moment in time to never suffer again in eternity....but that choice is up to each of us...blame God and live out your life in denial or accept that He is God and youre not and spend eternity with your Creator...i choose door #2..
@carlsitler9071 Says:
"If there is a God...?" That's the question. Show me proof. God commanded the Isrealites to annihilate the Canaanites and punished them when they killed them all except a couple they took as slaves. God said "Kill them ALL." Note Is-re-al: Is = Isis (moon god), re = Ra (sun god) al = el (Eloheme/gods). Atlantian dieties preserved into the new age.
@lawrenceeason8007 Says:
If a god designed this world…life…then that god designed suffering for all living things
@kingsburydrive2724 Says:
Catholics do not believe one is saved through works. We believe we are saved by God's grace alone. Doing good works is in imitation of our Lord, Jesus. If one were to say "I accept Jesus as my Lord and savior," that does not follow that he can continue to intentionally live a life of sin. When one says those words, it is assumed that "acceptance" means one will orient their lives in imitating the Lord, which takes effort (or work/actions) to actively turn from sin and live a life of love as He did.
@user-gv8xf9ul5j Says:
You don’t need the ability to do evil to have free will, otherwise Yahweh has no free will

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