Dope Tech Episode 2

<<@exegesisthetext says : Hey, I am the guy in the video that actually asked the question to Frank about reconciling libertarian free will with once saved always saved and of course this is a logical fallacy just because someone has (past tense)(been saved.) Does not mean that you cannot become unsaved or reject the gift that you once accepted 2 Timothy 1:9 states that "Who saved us and called us to a holy calling, not because of our works but because of his own purpose and grace, which he gave us in Christ Jesus before the ages began (Who saved us) past tense yes we have been saved the initial saving was a sufficient saving But that’s when I got into the example of Frank going down to Myrtle Beach, jumping in the water, hitting his head on a rock going unconscious, the lifeguard saves him. He has nothing to do with the saving. The life guard brings him back to shore perform CPR. He comes back to life (he has been saved). And it is past tense the saving was sufficient, but does it logically follow that Frank cannot go back into the water? ? NO Just because you read scriptures when we have (been saved) doesn’t mean we cannot become unsaved those scriptures none of them at all support. The doctrine of once saved always saved. Frank took the radical position like Zane hodges and Charles Stanley that say can walk away from God but that doesn’t change anything They believe we could be A regenerate born again blood bought Holy Ghost filled child of God and relapse into rebellion and disobedience commit apostasy and die in that shape and our heavenly reward awaits us… This is not what the scriptures teach us most Christians believe is justification by faith alone but majority of us reject eternal security Martin Luther himself believed it was possible for a Christian to commit and lose salvation It’s only Calvinist and some evangelicals who believe salvation cannot be Lost in fact, the doctrine that Frank is supporting is unknown to the churches history for the first 1500 years I told Frank I said it’s within my capacity. I could wake up tomorrow and choose to become a Christopher Hitchens. But he said well, maybe you’re not a true Christian But if a true Christian is defined by the fact that he or she would never fall away from the faith then no one could ever be completely sure that he was that kind of Christian, because none of us have infallible knowledge of the future But first John chapter 5, verse 13 tells us that we may know that we have eternal life Scriptures are explicit on this topic and I do not think they are ambiguous at all! NASB Hebrews 3:1 , 3 Therefore, holy brethren, partakers of a heavenly calling Hebrews 3:12-14 New Living Translation 12 Be careful then, dear brothers and sisters.[f]Make sure that your own hearts are not evil and unbelieving, turning you away from the living God. 13 You must warn each other every day, while it is still “today,” so that none of you will be deceived by sin and hardened against God.14 For if we are faithful to the end, trusting God just as firmly as when we first believed, we will share in all that belongs to Christ. 15 Remember what it says: “ Today when you hear his voice,  don’t harden your hearts  as Israel did when they rebelled. The 3rd chapter of hebrews completely destroys OSAS notice how in chapter 3:1 he is writing to the HOLY BROTHERS PARTAKERS OF THE HEAVENLY CALLING So who is the writer speaking to? born again Christian’s BROTHERS-make sure that none of YOU be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin and departing from the living God Well, first off he’s not addressing unbelievers because they are already hardened by sin and you can’t depart from the leaving God if you’re not attached to him to begin with how foolish of an argument Galatians 3:2-3 English Standard Version 2 Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by[a] the flesh? Galatians 5:7-15 English Standard Version 5:7 You were running well. Who hindered you from obeying the truth? 8 This persuasion is not from him who calls you. Galatians 5:4 English Standard Version 4 You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified[a] by the law; you have fallen away from grace. Paul was telling the church of Galatia that if they return to circumcision and the law to be justified that they would be severed from Christ and fall from grace! He said have you been gone in the spirit? Are you now made perfect by the flesh? have you received the spirit by the works of the law or by the hearing of faith? There is no ambiguity in this passage on who Paul is writing to Obviously, looking at the text, it is most definitely a Christian audience who have begun in the spirit who are tempted to become Judaizers 2nd peter 2:20 For if, after they have escaped the defilement's of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. 21 For it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them.22 What the true proverb says has happened to them: “The dog returns to its own vomit, and the sow, after washing herself, returns to wallow in the mire.” They are again entangled? And overcome? They would have been better off not to ever have know the way of righteousness, and after knowing it, it turned from it for they are worse off in the end?? Come on guys it’s explicit no ambiguity here!!>> <<@Brad90977 says : 2:45:02...I'm sorry Frank but you are wrong on this point. St. Ignatius (35-107 AD) and St. Irenaeus (120-200 AD) as well as many other early Church fathers wrote and preached about the body and blood of Christ in the Eucharist. Because it was so well accepted, and no one challenged it, it wasn’t until the 1200s that it was given the official name of transubstantiation.>> <<@JadDragon says : Thank you CE. Jesus lives! ♥️ and is Yahweh God 🙏🏻 Christ ✝️ and King 👑>> <<@nickbrasing8786 says : Frank does a disservice to anyone interested in what the Bible actually has to say about the subject of slavery. Or the beginning of the universe for that matter. Frank will tell you what you want to hear, rather than what the Bible (or science) actually says. Over the years I've come to see him for what he is. A Christian who sacrifices truth at the alter of selling books. Which is his right, but I won't respect him for it. And neither should anyone else in my opinion.>> <<@outdoorsman426 says : This is why "forced" child support upon men equals slavery.>> <<@michelangelope830 says : Quiero resolver un problema. ¿Puedes por favor detenerte a pensar lo que estás haciendo? Eres cristiano y un seguidor fervoroso de Jesús, que dicen que pasó por el mundo hace 2024 años, y no resolvió nada. ¿Resolvió Jesús o sus seguidores algún problema?. No se trata de decir que se ama, se trata de amar. Hay una grandísima diferencia entre decir que hay que amar o decir que se ama y amar. De pico, o de boca, todos somos buenos. Si los cristianos fuesen buenas personas no molestaría el cristianismo, pero el cristianismo irrita y molesta porque no hay cristiano bueno. ¿Es posible creer que haciendo daño a la creación de Dios se puede ganar el cielo eterno? ¿Es posible ser tan malo como son los cristianos y creer que Jesús les va a abrir las puertas del paraiso eterno?. Soy un psicólogo y mi verdad es la religión y el ateísmo te están costando tu salud mental y economía. Dios existe porque lógicamente la creación o finitud no puede existir sin el creador o infinitud, y por eso todo lo que hacemos, decimos y pensamos durante toda nuestra vida importa. Mi verdad es el cristianismo es una secta que parece una secta. ¡El cielo eterno es para las buenas personas!, y el infierno eterno para las malas, y es así como a ti te gustaría que fuese la realidad, perfecta. Tenemos una vida y es para siempre, así que piensa bien quien te dice la verdad y te quiere y quien te miente y te engaña. ¡Y no hay escándalo de pedofilia que convezca a cristianos a abandonar el cristianismo!. Tu eliges tu vida y eres responsable de las consecuencias. ¿Por qué los cristianos se niegan a pedir que se pruebe el Corán fue memorizado? Estoy hablando de realidad que supera la ficción que está pasando delante de tus propios ojos. Tú eres testigo que los cristianos se niegan a pedir que se pruebe el Corán fue memorizado. ¿No es el fin del Islam lo que los cristianos decían y dicen que quieren?, ¿no es un mandamiento de Jesucristo no mentirás?. Ningún Dios jamás prometió el paraíso eterno a mentirosos. Un ejercicio para mejorar tu vida es leer a Spinoza, para cambiar, para no leer siempre la Biblia, para aprender algo nuevo. ¡Emergencia! El tiempo se acaba y es eterno. La justicia del verdadero Dios es perfecta. La verdad que te ayudará a salir del círculo es el ateísmo es una falacia lógica que asume Dios es la idea religiosa del creador de la creación y concluye erróneamente el creador no existe porque una idea particular de Dios no existe. Gracias.>> <<@Theo_Skeptomai says : Hello. I am an atheist. I define atheism as suspending any acknowledgment as to the reality of any particular god until sufficient credible evidence is presented. My position is that *_I currently have no good reason to acknowledge the reality of any god._* And here is why I currently hold to such a position. Below are 11 facts I must consider when evaluating the claim made by certain theists that a particular god exists in reality. To be clear, these are not premises for any argument which _concludes_ there to be no gods. These are simply facts I must take into account when evaluating the verity of such a claim. If any of the following facts were to be contravened at a later time by evidence, experience, or sound argument, I would THEN have good reason to acknowledge such a reality. 1. I have never been presented with a functional definition of a god. 2. I personally have never observed a god. 3. I have never encountered any person who has claimed to have observed a god. 4. I know of no accounts of persons claiming to have observed a god that were willing or able to demonstrate or verify their observation for authenticity, accuracy, or validity. 5. I have never been presented with any _valid_ logical argument, which also introduced demonstrably true premises that lead deductively to an inevitable conclusion that a god(s) exists in reality. 6. Of the many logical syllogisms I have examined arguing for the reality of a god(s), I have found all to contain a formal or informal logical fallacy or a premise that can not be demonstrated to be true. 7. I have never observed a phenomenon in which the existence of a god was a necessary antecedent for the known or probable explanation for the causation of that phenomenon. 8. Several proposed (and generally accepted) explanations for observable phenomena that were previously based on the agency of a god(s), have subsequently been replaced with rational, natural explanations, each substantiated with evidence that excluded the agency of a god(s). I have never encountered _vice versa._ 9. I have never knowingly experienced the presence of a god through intercession of angels, divine revelation, the miraculous act of divinity, or any occurrence of a supernatural event. 10. Every phenomenon that I have ever observed appears to have *_emerged_* from necessary and sufficient antecedents over time without exception. In other words, I have never observed a phenomenon (entity, process, object, event, process, substance, system, or being) that was created _ex nihilo_ - that is instantaneously came into existence by the solitary volition of a deity. 11. All claims of a supernatural or divine nature that I have been presented have either been refuted to my satisfaction or do not present as _falsifiable._ ALL of these facts lead me to the only rational conclusion that concurs with the realities I have been presented - and that is the fact that there is *_no good reason_* for me to acknowledge the reality of any particular god. I have heard often that atheism is the denial of the Abrahamic god. But denial is the active rejection of a substantiated fact once credible evidence has been presented. Atheism is simply withholding such acknowledgment until sufficient credible evidence is introduced. *_It is natural, rational, and prudent to be skeptical of unsubstantiated claims, especially extraordinary ones._* I welcome any cordial response. Peace.>> <<@Kukum33 says : This is Amazing>> <<@edpena4301 says : A true believer that’s truly save starts to sin less and what god starts he finishes>> <<@missireason8998 says : We STILL have slavery today, in the same method of Biblical times, to pay off a debt through labor. Hospitals will pay for a person to go to RN school. The person signs a document that they will work at the hospital for a certain amount of years post graduation, to pay off the debt owed the hospital for RN school. My sister did this, AND MAY DO IT AGAIN. After working at the hospital for 3 years, she satisfied the RN school debt. They recently asked her if she is interested in becoming an NP and if she is, the hospital will enter into an agreement again, where they pay for her school upfront and she works as an NP at the hospital for 3 years post graduation/internship.>> <<@sr4663 says : No one needs license to sin. For believers, sin is unbelief, Rom.14:23a. The new creation is a saint, nog a sinner. ARE YOU A SINNER OR A SAINT? Deeds of the flesh are not deeds of the new creation. The new creation has a circumcized heart. Ez.36:26-27, and the mind of Messiah, I Cor.2:16. We never want to do anything but trust and obey in the inner man/woman. The Apostle Saul/Paul explains this here. 15 I don’t understand my own behavior — I don’t do what I want to do; instead, I do the very thing I hate! 16 Now if I am doing what I don’t want to do, I am agreeing that the Torah (Law) is good. 17 But now it is no longer “the real me” doing it, but the sin housed inside me. 18 For I know that there is nothing good housed inside me — that is, inside my old nature. I can want what is good, but I can’t do it! 19 For I don’t do the good I want; instead, the evil that I don’t want is what I do! 20 But if I am doing what “the real me” doesn’t want, it is no longer “the real me” doing it but the sin housed inside me, Rom.7:15-20. This is why we are instructed this way. 8 Those who keep sowing in the field of their old nature, in order to meet its demands, will eventually reap ruin; but those who keep sowing in the field of the Spirit will reap from the Spirit everlasting life, Gal.6:8.>> <<@RS-gh2mf says : Frank, you're the best 👌>> <<@StevenAndre-t9m says : Once saved, always saved is heresy. I like Frank but he's 100% INCORRECT on this and it IS an important issue because, in theory, it gives license to a believer to allow a little leaven into their lives under the FALSE assumption that God won't judge us for it. Why do we read about returning to our vomit if we are always saved? The answer is clear, we can, and WILL, BE CUT OFF if we stop walking in the ways of our LORD. Amen>> <<@GeoffBaxter-c7n says : Fake christians never tell people that sinning against God and breaking His Commandments will get you thrown into the fire with your devil master.>> <<@roberttombs3108 says : Good stuff, but why show a fake globe picture when the earth is on a plane?>> <<@gi169 says : Thank you CrossExamined>> <<@robbiecleighmarks3088 says : I was waiting for "Luke... I am your Father" 😂 missed one there Frank. But seriously, great as always..>> <<@dperkins01 says : Frank really tries to clean up slavery. Since I'm an atheist, I don't have an objective moral standing, according to Frank. Christians can't say something is wrong because they don't know if god willed it. God could have communicated directly to Hitler, then Frank would have to say Hitler was right.>> <<@AlbertaRanch says : Frank should read all of Exodus 21.>>